Comments on: The Archived Self http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/the-archived-self/ falling indelibly into the past Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:21:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: BT http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/the-archived-self/comment-page-1/#comment-1047 BT Tue, 24 May 2005 03:00:56 +0000 http://www.new.plannedobsolescence.net/?p=497#comment-1047 <p>Well, after having gotten such a nice response to my comment (reading your mind, am I? Well in tune with the plan for the “Archive,” eh? I thought so. The device is working just as plann—what! Oh, nothing, nothing.  Please continue reading outside of the parentheses), I had hoped to have something useful to contribute about photos.  But of course, all I have are useless and fuzzy abstractions to offer. </p> Well, after having gotten such a nice response to my comment (reading your mind, am I? Well in tune with the plan for the “Archive,” eh? I thought so. The device is working just as plann—what! Oh, nothing, nothing.  Please continue reading outside of the parentheses), I had hoped to have something useful to contribute about photos.  But of course, all I have are useless and fuzzy abstractions to offer.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/the-archived-self/comment-page-1/#comment-1046 Jonathan Sun, 22 May 2005 17:26:20 +0000 http://www.new.plannedobsolescence.net/?p=497#comment-1046 <p>Oddly, I just got spam from Katelyn Fitzpatrick ( <script type="text/javascript"> //<![CDATA[ var l=new Array(); l[0]='>';l[1]='a';l[2]='/';l[3]='<';l[4]=' 107';l[5]=' 117';l[6]=' 46';l[7]=' 111';l[8]=' 99';l[9]=' 46';l[10]=' 115';l[11]=' 101';l[12]=' 116';l[13]=' 97';l[14]=' 108';l[15]=' 111';l[16]=' 99';l[17]=' 111';l[18]=' 104';l[19]=' 99';l[20]=' 48';l[21]=' 48';l[22]=' 48';l[23]=' 56';l[24]=' 48';l[25]=' 64';l[26]=' 121';l[27]=' 101';l[28]=' 108';l[29]=' 110';l[30]=' 101';l[31]=' 72';l[32]=' 105';l[33]=' 99';l[34]=' 97';l[35]=' 114';l[36]=' 84';l[37]='>';l[38]='\"';l[39]=' 107';l[40]=' 117';l[41]=' 46';l[42]=' 111';l[43]=' 99';l[44]=' 46';l[45]=' 115';l[46]=' 101';l[47]=' 116';l[48]=' 97';l[49]=' 108';l[50]=' 111';l[51]=' 99';l[52]=' 111';l[53]=' 104';l[54]=' 99';l[55]=' 48';l[56]=' 48';l[57]=' 48';l[58]=' 56';l[59]=' 48';l[60]=' 64';l[61]=' 121';l[62]=' 101';l[63]=' 108';l[64]=' 110';l[65]=' 101';l[66]=' 72';l[67]=' 105';l[68]=' 99';l[69]=' 97';l[70]=' 114';l[71]=' 84';l[72]=':';l[73]='o';l[74]='t';l[75]='l';l[76]='i';l[77]='a';l[78]='m';l[79]='\"';l[80]='=';l[81]='f';l[82]='e';l[83]='r';l[84]='h';l[85]='a ';l[86]='<'; for (var i = l.length-1; i >= 0; i=i-1){ if (l[i].substring(0, 1) == ' ') document.write("&#"+unescape(l[i].substring(1))+";"); else document.write(unescape(l[i])); } //]]> </script> ) about an online casino… </p> <p> I know exactly what you were planning on doing—and its a great idea.  I just wanted to warn you that fiction can have real life consequences, thanks to marketers.  Beware. </p> Oddly, I just got spam from Katelyn Fitzpatrick ( ) about an online casino…

I know exactly what you were planning on doing—and its a great idea.  I just wanted to warn you that fiction can have real life consequences, thanks to marketers.  Beware.

]]> By: KF http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/the-archived-self/comment-page-1/#comment-1045 KF Sun, 22 May 2005 11:46:04 +0000 http://www.new.plannedobsolescence.net/?p=497#comment-1045 <p>Hi, Shauna!  Yes, exactly:  I had a great bit of conversation during an oral exam in April about the failures of the archive to truly contain or communicate the past to the present (or perhaps it’s the failures of the present in encountering the archive), seen both in Byatt and in Stoppard’s <i>Arcadia</i>, that in part sent me down this path. </p> <p> I’m also sorry we didn’t get the chance to catch up more—between my busyness and my foul mood—but it’s good knowing you’re out there.  We’ll find another chance… </p> Hi, Shauna!  Yes, exactly:  I had a great bit of conversation during an oral exam in April about the failures of the archive to truly contain or communicate the past to the present (or perhaps it’s the failures of the present in encountering the archive), seen both in Byatt and in Stoppard’s Arcadia, that in part sent me down this path.

I’m also sorry we didn’t get the chance to catch up more—between my busyness and my foul mood—but it’s good knowing you’re out there.  We’ll find another chance…

]]> By: Shauna http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/the-archived-self/comment-page-1/#comment-1044 Shauna Sun, 22 May 2005 04:24:56 +0000 http://www.new.plannedobsolescence.net/?p=497#comment-1044 <p>Hi Kathleen -- <br /> I couldn’t help but think of Byatt’s Possession when I read this entry.  Roland and Maude meet Ash and Christabel again for the first time, so to speak, when they encounter “bits of unknowableness” in the correspondence.  It sounds like a wonderful project.  Sorry that we couldn’t catch up more at the reunion -- <br /> Best of luck! </p> Hi Kathleen –

I couldn’t help but think of Byatt’s Possession when I read this entry.  Roland and Maude meet Ash and Christabel again for the first time, so to speak, when they encounter “bits of unknowableness” in the correspondence.  It sounds like a wonderful project.  Sorry that we couldn’t catch up more at the reunion –

Best of luck!

]]> By: KF http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/the-archived-self/comment-page-1/#comment-1043 KF Sat, 21 May 2005 20:23:26 +0000 http://www.new.plannedobsolescence.net/?p=497#comment-1043 <p>Thanks for the source ideas, Jonathan—that’s an enormous help.  </p> <p> And thanks for the warning about the effects of some kinds of persona-creating.  This isn’t that kind of “fictional person,” however:  think FICTION… </p> Thanks for the source ideas, Jonathan—that’s an enormous help. 

And thanks for the warning about the effects of some kinds of persona-creating.  This isn’t that kind of “fictional person,” however:  think FICTION…

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/the-archived-self/comment-page-1/#comment-1042 Jonathan Sat, 21 May 2005 20:06:39 +0000 http://www.new.plannedobsolescence.net/?p=497#comment-1042 <p>For photos, look for either creative commons / public domain placed items, or use free/cheap stock photo sites (examples: istockphoto.com, where photos are $1 each for royalty free images; <a href="http://www.sxc.hu" rel="nofollow">http://www.sxc.hu</a>, the stock exchange, where downloads are free) (there are sites that archive links to these types or resources, like <a href="http://www.bluevertigo.com.ar/bluevertigo.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.bluevertigo.com.ar/bluevertigo.htm</a>) </p> <p> There are also a lot of items that have fallen into public domain via copyright protection expiration or rights being acquired by the government. I used to date someone at the Library of Congress who organized a lot of the online collections of those. (Some state agencies have them too—esp relating to ‘how family life looked in ____) </p> <p> Archive.org holds the Prelinger archives, which showcase a lot of ephemeral films from the 50s and 60s under a royalty free distribution—you might be able to do screencaps of them. </p> <p> About 4 years ago I tried to create a fictional person, by signing up for a opt-in contact list under an assumed name/identity.  Within 4 months I/that person had their profile sold all over, and my residence was bombarded with catalogs and credit card offers—so just be wary of creating fictional things, they have real life effects. </p> For photos, look for either creative commons / public domain placed items, or use free/cheap stock photo sites (examples: istockphoto.com, where photos are $1 each for royalty free images; http://www.sxc.hu, the stock exchange, where downloads are free) (there are sites that archive links to these types or resources, like http://www.bluevertigo.com.ar/bluevertigo.htm)

There are also a lot of items that have fallen into public domain via copyright protection expiration or rights being acquired by the government. I used to date someone at the Library of Congress who organized a lot of the online collections of those. (Some state agencies have them too—esp relating to ‘how family life looked in ____)

Archive.org holds the Prelinger archives, which showcase a lot of ephemeral films from the 50s and 60s under a royalty free distribution—you might be able to do screencaps of them.

About 4 years ago I tried to create a fictional person, by signing up for a opt-in contact list under an assumed name/identity.  Within 4 months I/that person had their profile sold all over, and my residence was bombarded with catalogs and credit card offers—so just be wary of creating fictional things, they have real life effects.

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