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		<title>By: KF</title>
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		<dc:creator>KF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, and Kari&#8212;good grief!&#160; That must have been frustrating and terrifying.&#160; I&#8217;m curious about the teaching of diagnostics, too; I fear that there&#8217;s too much of an emphasis on an Occam&#8217;s razor-like approach, in which the simplest (i.e., commonest) explanation is the one relied upon, at the expense of a sufficent curiosity about other possible causes&#8230;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and Kari&#8212;good grief!&nbsp; That must have been frustrating and terrifying.&nbsp; I&#8217;m curious about the teaching of diagnostics, too; I fear that there&#8217;s too much of an emphasis on an Occam&#8217;s razor-like approach, in which the simplest (i.e., commonest) explanation is the one relied upon, at the expense of a sufficent curiosity about other possible causes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: KF</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/running-again/#comment-1343</link>
		<dc:creator>KF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi, Dave.&#160; Actually, I was inadvertently in NoVa right at the tail end of the Marine Corps Marathon, during my little travel delay last week, and R.&#8217;s hotel was filled with folks who&#8217;d just run.&#160; That&#8217;s part of what got me thinking about the whole marathoning thing again&#8212;seeing the exhilaration of those who&#8217;d finished.&#160; (Of course, alongside that were the plethora of folks hobbling around with one shoe on.)
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L.A. in March should actually be pretty amenable; the average high in March is 70, though with some occasional weirdness.&#160; S.F.&#8217;s not a bad idea though; I should file that away for future thought.&#160; What I really want to run someday, though, is the &lt;a href="http://www.bsim.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;Big Sur Marathon&lt;/a&gt;, which is supposed to be unbelievably gorgeous.
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Thanks for the link to the running log; I&#8217;ve been using an old-fashioned notebook log for a while, which is nice for the flipping-back-through, but the kinds of calculations that the Excel log can provide are really appealing.
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Though I don&#8217;t know what you mean by obsessive-compulsive.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Dave.&nbsp; Actually, I was inadvertently in NoVa right at the tail end of the Marine Corps Marathon, during my little travel delay last week, and R.&#8217;s hotel was filled with folks who&#8217;d just run.&nbsp; That&#8217;s part of what got me thinking about the whole marathoning thing again&#8212;seeing the exhilaration of those who&#8217;d finished.&nbsp; (Of course, alongside that were the plethora of folks hobbling around with one shoe on.)
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L.A. in March should actually be pretty amenable; the average high in March is 70, though with some occasional weirdness.&nbsp; S.F.&#8217;s not a bad idea though; I should file that away for future thought.&nbsp; What I really want to run someday, though, is the <a href="http://www.bsim.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Big Sur Marathon</a>, which is supposed to be unbelievably gorgeous.
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Thanks for the link to the running log; I&#8217;ve been using an old-fashioned notebook log for a while, which is nice for the flipping-back-through, but the kinds of calculations that the Excel log can provide are really appealing.
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Though I don&#8217;t know what you mean by obsessive-compulsive.
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/running-again/#comment-1342</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 02:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#8217;m just barely recovered enough from the Marine Corps Marathon to offer, for what it&#8217;s worth, runnerly support. Clearly, 26.2 miles of repetitive trauma is questionable behavior, but that euphoric finish you describe felt entirely worth it.
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Unfortunately, we had a relatively warm day. I imagine the L.A. marathon sort of guarantees that kind of weather. If you feel like heading up the coast for more amenable race-day temperatures, I hear good things about the S.F. marathon. Imagine training in Los Angeles and racing in San Francisco!
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Apologies for the unsolicited advice, but the Excel running log template available at &lt;a href="http://www.davidhays.net/running/runlog/runlog.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.davidhays.net/running/runlog/runlog.html&lt;/a&gt; is great for the obsessive-compulsive runner, who needs to know how many miles are on those shoes, what her average pace for a year&#8217;s worth of long runs is, and what the pace-per-mile caculation would be for fifteen miles run in two hours and three minutes.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just barely recovered enough from the Marine Corps Marathon to offer, for what it&#8217;s worth, runnerly support. Clearly, 26.2 miles of repetitive trauma is questionable behavior, but that euphoric finish you describe felt entirely worth it.
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Unfortunately, we had a relatively warm day. I imagine the L.A. marathon sort of guarantees that kind of weather. If you feel like heading up the coast for more amenable race-day temperatures, I hear good things about the S.F. marathon. Imagine training in Los Angeles and racing in San Francisco!
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Apologies for the unsolicited advice, but the Excel running log template available at <a href="http://www.davidhays.net/running/runlog/runlog.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.davidhays.net/running/runlog/runlog.html</a> is great for the obsessive-compulsive runner, who needs to know how many miles are on those shoes, what her average pace for a year&#8217;s worth of long runs is, and what the pace-per-mile caculation would be for fifteen miles run in two hours and three minutes.</p>
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		<title>By: kari</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/running-again/#comment-1341</link>
		<dc:creator>kari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 02:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Eek, didn&#8217;t know about the mercury hazard in the fillings! Anyway, it&#8217;s the &#8220;un- and mis-diagnosed&#8221; part of your story and Hillenbrand&#8217;s and so many others that gets to me. I&#8217;ve experienced my own version of it--a spinal cord tumor that took far too long to diagnose.&#160; I&#8217;d really love to get an inside look at how they _teach_ diagnostics in medical school.
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Good luck with the running!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eek, didn&#8217;t know about the mercury hazard in the fillings! Anyway, it&#8217;s the &#8220;un- and mis-diagnosed&#8221; part of your story and Hillenbrand&#8217;s and so many others that gets to me. I&#8217;ve experienced my own version of it&#8211;a spinal cord tumor that took far too long to diagnose.&nbsp; I&#8217;d really love to get an inside look at how they _teach_ diagnostics in medical school.
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Good luck with the running!</p>
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		<title>By: KF</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/running-again/#comment-1340</link>
		<dc:creator>KF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2004 20:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi, Kari.&#160; I did read Hillenbrand&#8217;s memoir of her illness when it ran in the New Yorker, and found it both fascinating and, in certain elements, familiar.&#160; My illness was pretty different, though; I had a bit of fatigue, but not the crushing kind that overtook Hillenbrand.&#160; My symptoms were mostly restricted to joint pain, swelling, and immobility.&#160; Whatever it was I had, my doctors never were able to pin it down; most of the classical signs of both lupus and rheumatoid arthritis were absent, but one major clinical indicator (the anti-nuclear antibody test) was always elevated.&#160; That indicator remains borderline-high to this day, but what it indicates is far from conclusive; it suggests an auto-immune issue that could well someday resolve into lupus, or it could be a lingering nothing.&#160; Lupus would explain a whole lot of other health weirdnesses I&#8217;ve dealt with over the last several years&#8212;the apparent attack of appendicitis that was unaccompanied by fever or elevated white cell count, and that they thought for a while might have been ulcerative colitis or Crohn&#8217;s disease; the blood clot in my leg two and a half years ago that came out of nowhere, unprovoked by long flights&#8212;but they won&#8217;t be able to diagnose that unless I get a whole lot worse.&#160; As long as I&#8217;m healthy (which I am, extremely so, all these weird health crisis moments notwithstanding), I&#8217;m happy to let sleeping dogs lie.
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Interestingly, on the un- and mis-diagnosed disease front, the stories that have over the years sounded to me most like my own experience have been the stories of folks who&#8217;ve been diagnosed with MS, only to have their symptoms clear up when they have their silver-amalgam fillings removed.&#160; The argument is that the &lt;a href="http://www.holisticmed.com/dental/amalgam/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;mercury&lt;/a&gt; in silver-amalgam fillings can leach into the bloodstream, and that, in some particularly sensitive folks, it will trigger auto-immune responses.&#160; As it happens, while I was in the midst of being treated for the mystery disease, my dentist discovered that the chemistry of my  mouth had caused all of my silver-amalgam fillings to begin breaking down, and so he took them all out and replaced them with composite fillings.&#160; At the exact same time, my rheumatologist finally began to pull out the pharmaceutical big guns, and prescribed me anti-malarial drugs.&#160; I&#8217;ll never know which of the two did it, but within a couple of months, my symptoms started rapidly receding.
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So go figure.&#160; The marathon was about five years after I&#8217;d gone into remission, and was a great declaration, mostly to myself, that I was better than I&#8217;d been before I got sick.&#160; Now, watching forty begin to loom on the horizon, I&#8217;m feeling the need for another such declaration of the &#8220;getting better all the time&#8221; variety.&#160; We&#8217;ll see how it goes&#8230;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Kari.&nbsp; I did read Hillenbrand&#8217;s memoir of her illness when it ran in the New Yorker, and found it both fascinating and, in certain elements, familiar.&nbsp; My illness was pretty different, though; I had a bit of fatigue, but not the crushing kind that overtook Hillenbrand.&nbsp; My symptoms were mostly restricted to joint pain, swelling, and immobility.&nbsp; Whatever it was I had, my doctors never were able to pin it down; most of the classical signs of both lupus and rheumatoid arthritis were absent, but one major clinical indicator (the anti-nuclear antibody test) was always elevated.&nbsp; That indicator remains borderline-high to this day, but what it indicates is far from conclusive; it suggests an auto-immune issue that could well someday resolve into lupus, or it could be a lingering nothing.&nbsp; Lupus would explain a whole lot of other health weirdnesses I&#8217;ve dealt with over the last several years&#8212;the apparent attack of appendicitis that was unaccompanied by fever or elevated white cell count, and that they thought for a while might have been ulcerative colitis or Crohn&#8217;s disease; the blood clot in my leg two and a half years ago that came out of nowhere, unprovoked by long flights&#8212;but they won&#8217;t be able to diagnose that unless I get a whole lot worse.&nbsp; As long as I&#8217;m healthy (which I am, extremely so, all these weird health crisis moments notwithstanding), I&#8217;m happy to let sleeping dogs lie.
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Interestingly, on the un- and mis-diagnosed disease front, the stories that have over the years sounded to me most like my own experience have been the stories of folks who&#8217;ve been diagnosed with MS, only to have their symptoms clear up when they have their silver-amalgam fillings removed.&nbsp; The argument is that the <a href="http://www.holisticmed.com/dental/amalgam/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">mercury</a> in silver-amalgam fillings can leach into the bloodstream, and that, in some particularly sensitive folks, it will trigger auto-immune responses.&nbsp; As it happens, while I was in the midst of being treated for the mystery disease, my dentist discovered that the chemistry of my  mouth had caused all of my silver-amalgam fillings to begin breaking down, and so he took them all out and replaced them with composite fillings.&nbsp; At the exact same time, my rheumatologist finally began to pull out the pharmaceutical big guns, and prescribed me anti-malarial drugs.&nbsp; I&#8217;ll never know which of the two did it, but within a couple of months, my symptoms started rapidly receding.
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So go figure.&nbsp; The marathon was about five years after I&#8217;d gone into remission, and was a great declaration, mostly to myself, that I was better than I&#8217;d been before I got sick.&nbsp; Now, watching forty begin to loom on the horizon, I&#8217;m feeling the need for another such declaration of the &#8220;getting better all the time&#8221; variety.&nbsp; We&#8217;ll see how it goes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kari</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/running-again/#comment-1339</link>
		<dc:creator>kari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2004 19:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kathleen, on the mysterious virus: have you read Laura Hillenbrand&#8217;s &lt;a href="http://www.cfids-cab.org/MESA/Hillenbrand.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;account of her struggles with CFS?&lt;/a&gt;  What you describe sounds eerily similar.&#160; I&#8217;ve blogged about Hillenbrand &lt;a href="http://karik.wordherders.net/archives/001113.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;
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The marathon sounds exhilirating. FYI, Dave and Natalie over at Wordherders recently blogged about their first marathon experience.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathleen, on the mysterious virus: have you read Laura Hillenbrand&#8217;s <a href="http://www.cfids-cab.org/MESA/Hillenbrand.html" rel="nofollow">account of her struggles with CFS?</a>  What you describe sounds eerily similar.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve blogged about Hillenbrand <a href="http://karik.wordherders.net/archives/001113.html" rel="nofollow">here.</a>
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The marathon sounds exhilirating. FYI, Dave and Natalie over at Wordherders recently blogged about their first marathon experience.</p>
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