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	<title>Comments on: Now That&#8217;s Significant</title>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2003 20:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#8217;d recommend Le Guin&#8217;s &#8216;The Dispossessed&#8217; over &#8216;Left Hand of Darkness&#8217; (but that&#8217;s also good, and given your stated interests I expect you&#8217;ve already read it). My favourite PKD is &#8216;A Scanner Darkly&#8217;, but &#8216;Man in the High Castle&#8217; is good too. Pratchett&#8217;s first Discworld book was definitely not the best; although I ran out of steam with the series years ago, I still remember &#8216;Mort&#8217; and &#8216;Small Gods&#8217; fondly. What else&#8230; Snow Crash is great, and a good place to start on Stephenson&#8217;s work. I preferred The Martian Chronicles to Fahrenheit 451. Dune is a good read, the sequel isn&#8217;t, and so I never got beyond that second instalment. Timescape is one of my favourite SF novels, so it&#8217;s pleasing to see it make the list - one of the best depictions of real scientists in SF.
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Others? I enjoyed The Space Merchants by Pohl and Kornbluth, which used to make these lists regularly; Robert Silverberg had a great run of novels in the 1970s; Heinlein&#8217;s later &#8216;grown up&#8217; novels are tedious libertarian stuff, but his earlier ones are fun - &#8216;Have Space Suit, Will Travel&#8217; was one of my childhood faves. My favourite shameless space opera would probably be Harry Harrison&#8217;s Stainless Steel Rat series.
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I could go on all night&#8230;
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[And now I&#8217;ve checked your numbers, and see that you have in fact not only read but taught two of the above.]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d recommend Le Guin&#8217;s &#8216;The Dispossessed&#8217; over &#8216;Left Hand of Darkness&#8217; (but that&#8217;s also good, and given your stated interests I expect you&#8217;ve already read it). My favourite PKD is &#8216;A Scanner Darkly&#8217;, but &#8216;Man in the High Castle&#8217; is good too. Pratchett&#8217;s first Discworld book was definitely not the best; although I ran out of steam with the series years ago, I still remember &#8216;Mort&#8217; and &#8216;Small Gods&#8217; fondly. What else&#8230; Snow Crash is great, and a good place to start on Stephenson&#8217;s work. I preferred The Martian Chronicles to Fahrenheit 451. Dune is a good read, the sequel isn&#8217;t, and so I never got beyond that second instalment. Timescape is one of my favourite SF novels, so it&#8217;s pleasing to see it make the list - one of the best depictions of real scientists in SF.
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Others? I enjoyed The Space Merchants by Pohl and Kornbluth, which used to make these lists regularly; Robert Silverberg had a great run of novels in the 1970s; Heinlein&#8217;s later &#8216;grown up&#8217; novels are tedious libertarian stuff, but his earlier ones are fun - &#8216;Have Space Suit, Will Travel&#8217; was one of my childhood faves. My favourite shameless space opera would probably be Harry Harrison&#8217;s Stainless Steel Rat series.
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I could go on all night&#8230;
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[And now I&#8217;ve checked your numbers, and see that you have in fact not only read but taught two of the above.]</p>
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		<title>By: KF</title>
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		<dc:creator>KF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;#20 is a long, insane ride, but (I think) worth the trip&#8212;though I&#8217;m today having the same debate that I had with myself two years ago:&#160; when I teach this class again, should I drop &lt;i&gt;Dhalgren&lt;/i&gt; in favor of a more manageable (or more traditionally SF, or less pornographic, or&#8230; insert any number of possible terms here) Delany?&#160; I&#8217;m not sure.
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One of my students recently recommended the Mars trilogy, of which I&#8217;ve read none.&#160; I&#8217;ll add it to my own personal list.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20 is a long, insane ride, but (I think) worth the trip&#8212;though I&#8217;m today having the same debate that I had with myself two years ago:&nbsp; when I teach this class again, should I drop <i>Dhalgren</i> in favor of a more manageable (or more traditionally SF, or less pornographic, or&#8230; insert any number of possible terms here) Delany?&nbsp; I&#8217;m not sure.
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One of my students recently recommended the Mars trilogy, of which I&#8217;ve read none.&nbsp; I&#8217;ll add it to my own personal list.</p>
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		<title>By: BT</title>
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		<dc:creator>BT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That word &#8220;significant&#8221; is a tough one there&#8212;so hard to know how to parse it. &#8220;Best&#8221; is actually easier, in a way.
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I&#8217;d vote for the removal of, say, Terry Pratchett in favor of Kim Stanley Robinson&#8217;s outstanding Mars trilogy.&#160; There&#8217;s been little recent science fiction so comprehensively devoted to some of the genre&#8217;s deepest original concerns: the political future of human society, the application of &#8220;science&#8221; to the terrain of the imagination.&#160; It&#8217;s also epic without being utterly fantastic&#8212;a combination one rarely finds anymore.
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Anyway, sounds like a good class.&#160; I&#8217;ve never read #20, though&#8212;only Delany&#8217;s brilliant short stories.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That word &#8220;significant&#8221; is a tough one there&#8212;so hard to know how to parse it. &#8220;Best&#8221; is actually easier, in a way.
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I&#8217;d vote for the removal of, say, Terry Pratchett in favor of Kim Stanley Robinson&#8217;s outstanding Mars trilogy.&nbsp; There&#8217;s been little recent science fiction so comprehensively devoted to some of the genre&#8217;s deepest original concerns: the political future of human society, the application of &#8220;science&#8221; to the terrain of the imagination.&nbsp; It&#8217;s also epic without being utterly fantastic&#8212;a combination one rarely finds anymore.
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Anyway, sounds like a good class.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve never read #20, though&#8212;only Delany&#8217;s brilliant short stories.</p>
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