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	<title>Comments on: Must Read: HASTAC/MLA Rethinking Tenure Guidelines</title>
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		<title>By: Weekly Reader &#124; William Patrick Wend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Reader &#124; William Patrick Wend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Kathleen Fitzpatrick on the recent collaboration between HASTAG and MLA on new tenure guidelines. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: KF</title>
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		<dc:creator>KF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 12:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that&#039;s the $64,000 question, isn&#039;t it?  My sense of this is pretty schizophrenic:  on the one hand, in the age of digital publishing, we potentially have access to a whole range of net-native metrics that can tell us about the significance that publications have for their fields, and so if we&#039;re bound to &quot;measurable standards,&quot; there are lots of things that we can look at (hits, downloads, inbound links, comments, public discussion, and so forth).

But on the other hand, I don&#039;t want to see our standards become even more focused on quantities than they already are, in which (as I said in the peer review panel yesterday) one ends up bean-counting one&#039;s way to tenure.  If tenure is actually given as a marker of &quot;promise&quot; -- your work over the last six years suggests that you will continue to be an active and invested member of our faculty -- then some evidence of that work over the last six years will continue to be important, of course, but so might a range of other things.  Like, maybe during your junior professordom you began an extensive digital project that will take fifteen years of shepherding to complete; maybe in that case having gotten a grant, completing a stage of the project, developing a plan for the project&#039;s future, and generally being quite focused on its &quot;completion&quot; should suffice.  In other words, we definitely want to see work that&#039;s been done, but we also want to see a roadmap for the future, and clear evidence that you&#039;re really on the path.

The trick in evaluations that shift the focus from finished objects to an ongoing research agenda is going to be getting committees (and administrations) to learn how to read, rather than count.  Ultimately, I think &quot;measurement&quot; is the wrong term in such an evaluation -- what we need to be thinking about is &lt;em&gt;judgment&lt;/em&gt;, something that we currently tend to want to erase by rendering objective or outsourcing, but that a really ethical engagement with the profession requires us to wrestle with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s the $64,000 question, isn&#8217;t it?  My sense of this is pretty schizophrenic:  on the one hand, in the age of digital publishing, we potentially have access to a whole range of net-native metrics that can tell us about the significance that publications have for their fields, and so if we&#8217;re bound to &#8220;measurable standards,&#8221; there are lots of things that we can look at (hits, downloads, inbound links, comments, public discussion, and so forth).</p>
<p>But on the other hand, I don&#8217;t want to see our standards become even more focused on quantities than they already are, in which (as I said in the peer review panel yesterday) one ends up bean-counting one&#8217;s way to tenure.  If tenure is actually given as a marker of &#8220;promise&#8221; &#8212; your work over the last six years suggests that you will continue to be an active and invested member of our faculty &#8212; then some evidence of that work over the last six years will continue to be important, of course, but so might a range of other things.  Like, maybe during your junior professordom you began an extensive digital project that will take fifteen years of shepherding to complete; maybe in that case having gotten a grant, completing a stage of the project, developing a plan for the project&#8217;s future, and generally being quite focused on its &#8220;completion&#8221; should suffice.  In other words, we definitely want to see work that&#8217;s been done, but we also want to see a roadmap for the future, and clear evidence that you&#8217;re really on the path.</p>
<p>The trick in evaluations that shift the focus from finished objects to an ongoing research agenda is going to be getting committees (and administrations) to learn how to read, rather than count.  Ultimately, I think &#8220;measurement&#8221; is the wrong term in such an evaluation &#8212; what we need to be thinking about is <em>judgment</em>, something that we currently tend to want to erase by rendering objective or outsourcing, but that a really ethical engagement with the profession requires us to wrestle with.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Quinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 12:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your post - and Davidson&#039;s comments - remind me of Malcolm Gladwell&#039;s article in The New Yorker a while back http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/12/15/081215fa_fact_gladwell
His analogy connects the scouting process for college football players and predicting who will be a good elementary school teacher: in both cases, past performances are NOT accurate predictors of what makes a good &quot;pro.&quot;  We&#039;ve all experienced (as students or colleagues) the tenured professor reading from crumbling yellowed notes -excerpts from that second book, perhaps? But how, in this era of ever-increasing reliance on data/numbers/ quantifiable material, do we create &quot;measurable standards&quot; that don&#039;t involve counting pages, publications, conference presentation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post &#8211; and Davidson&#8217;s comments &#8211; remind me of Malcolm Gladwell&#8217;s article in The New Yorker a while back <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/12/15/081215fa_fact_gladwell" rel="nofollow">http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/12/15/081215fa_fact_gladwell</a><br />
His analogy connects the scouting process for college football players and predicting who will be a good elementary school teacher: in both cases, past performances are NOT accurate predictors of what makes a good &#8220;pro.&#8221;  We&#8217;ve all experienced (as students or colleagues) the tenured professor reading from crumbling yellowed notes -excerpts from that second book, perhaps? But how, in this era of ever-increasing reliance on data/numbers/ quantifiable material, do we create &#8220;measurable standards&#8221; that don&#8217;t involve counting pages, publications, conference presentation?</p>
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