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	<description>falling indelibly into the past</description>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/mediacommons/#comment-1665</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Or as the kids are saying these days:
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&#8220;That is sooooo 1997.&#8221;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or as the kids are saying these days:
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&#8220;That is sooooo 1997.&#8221;
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		<title>By: kari</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/mediacommons/#comment-1664</link>
		<dc:creator>kari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2004 18:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To my ear, MediaCommons sounds more of the moment.&#160; MediaTexts is fine too, only it&#8217;s a bit retro.&#160; Late 80s, early 90s.
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		<title>By: KF</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/mediacommons/#comment-1663</link>
		<dc:creator>KF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2004 16:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, here&#8217;s the thing:&#160; I&#8217;m now squatting on both MediaCommons and MediaTexts, and it strikes me that the latter might provide a text-oriented subset of the former, allowing for other not-text-privileging  but nontheless related ventures in the outer domain&#8230;
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Thanks, all, for your input and advice.&#160; More on the project soon, I promise.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, here&#8217;s the thing:&nbsp; I&#8217;m now squatting on both MediaCommons and MediaTexts, and it strikes me that the latter might provide a text-oriented subset of the former, allowing for other not-text-privileging  but nontheless related ventures in the outer domain&#8230;
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Thanks, all, for your input and advice.&nbsp; More on the project soon, I promise.</p>
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		<title>By: Francois Lachance</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/mediacommons/#comment-1662</link>
		<dc:creator>Francois Lachance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2004 14:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Branding is fun (and spooky)!
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It&#8217;s like free association with anchors.
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I generated much amusement for myself (and now perhaps for others) by contemplating how one could reach a resonant name via some inspiration from some richly textual productions:
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The branding firm could approach Jill Walker of jill/txt and ask for a Norwegian name and then leap by association with Unicode (a scheme for the display of all those non-ASCII characters)to the brand name &#8220;Intercode&#8221;;
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The branding firm could be inspired by Matt Kirschenbaum of mgk and his work on &#8220;deep inscription&#8221; and could think of the work on ekphrasis generated through the wordherder bloggers and then by association conspire to launch the brand name &#8220;Deep Description&#8221; (shortened ranch-style to &#8220;DoubleD&#8221;;
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The branding firm could delight in Elouise Oyzon of Weez Blog and the word play there which in the past has genereated the expression &#8220;elusive ozone&#8221; and then recall that that blog author once contributed a comment to a Planned Obsolescence blog entry that gleefully suggested hobo signs as codes of welcome (and leap to a recall of George Williams&#8217;s recent mention of &#8220;HoBo&#8221; [a site formerly known as History of the Book @ Oxford])and by association create the brand name &#8220;Hobo Dimensions&#8221;;
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interhobo dimensions == IHD
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and now run IHD through a search engine and enjoy the wash of associations.... (one of my favourites is the reverse DHI&#8212;Door and Hardware Institute&#8212;Your Architectural Openings)
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One could have fun with KF + PO and play with call letters&#8230; 
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KFPO&#8212;sound like a public radio station
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POKF
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PKFO
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KPOF&#8212;close to that book publishers name :)
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There is always the sigil route&#8230; &#8220;The Academic Co-operators Formerly Known as Faculty&#8221;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Branding is fun (and spooky)!<br />
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It&#8217;s like free association with anchors.
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I generated much amusement for myself (and now perhaps for others) by contemplating how one could reach a resonant name via some inspiration from some richly textual productions:
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The branding firm could approach Jill Walker of jill/txt and ask for a Norwegian name and then leap by association with Unicode (a scheme for the display of all those non-ASCII characters)to the brand name &#8220;Intercode&#8221;;
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The branding firm could be inspired by Matt Kirschenbaum of mgk and his work on &#8220;deep inscription&#8221; and could think of the work on ekphrasis generated through the wordherder bloggers and then by association conspire to launch the brand name &#8220;Deep Description&#8221; (shortened ranch-style to &#8220;DoubleD&#8221;;
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The branding firm could delight in Elouise Oyzon of Weez Blog and the word play there which in the past has genereated the expression &#8220;elusive ozone&#8221; and then recall that that blog author once contributed a comment to a Planned Obsolescence blog entry that gleefully suggested hobo signs as codes of welcome (and leap to a recall of George Williams&#8217;s recent mention of &#8220;HoBo&#8221; [a site formerly known as History of the Book @ Oxford])and by association create the brand name &#8220;Hobo Dimensions&#8221;;
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interhobo dimensions == IHD
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and now run IHD through a search engine and enjoy the wash of associations&#8230;. (one of my favourites is the reverse DHI&#8212;Door and Hardware Institute&#8212;Your Architectural Openings)
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One could have fun with KF + PO and play with call letters&#8230;
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KFPO&#8212;sound like a public radio station<br />
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POKF<br />
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PKFO<br />
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KPOF&#8212;close to that book publishers name :)
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There is always the sigil route&#8230; &#8220;The Academic Co-operators Formerly Known as Faculty&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/mediacommons/#comment-1661</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2004 12:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;"potential objection along the lines of tacitly making &#8220;text&#8221; the dominant discursive mode&#8221; - Matt
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I think that&#8217;s why I&#8217;d shy away from MediaTexts.&#160; I understand (and agree with) your point Matt; sure, it&#8217;s all code (although after your talk - isn&#8217;t it all electrons?).&#160; But given that the centrality of text is a sort of hotspot, esp. in interdisciplinary circles, I&#8217;m not sure the caveat would appeal to most people.
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The thing I like about Commons is that, for me (and perhaps I should note that I was initially lukewarm to the name), it gives the impression of a meeting place for an exchange of various disparate views - an interdisciplinary forum .
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Whatever it&#8217;s called in the end, I think it&#8217;s a fab idea KF.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;potential objection along the lines of tacitly making &#8220;text&#8221; the dominant discursive mode&#8221; - Matt
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I think that&#8217;s why I&#8217;d shy away from MediaTexts.&nbsp; I understand (and agree with) your point Matt; sure, it&#8217;s all code (although after your talk - isn&#8217;t it all electrons?).&nbsp; But given that the centrality of text is a sort of hotspot, esp. in interdisciplinary circles, I&#8217;m not sure the caveat would appeal to most people.
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The thing I like about Commons is that, for me (and perhaps I should note that I was initially lukewarm to the name), it gives the impression of a meeting place for an exchange of various disparate views - an interdisciplinary forum .
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Whatever it&#8217;s called in the end, I think it&#8217;s a fab idea KF.</p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/mediacommons/#comment-1660</link>
		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2004 09:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#8217;ll chip in a vote for MediaTexts over MediaCommons as well. If nothing else, there&#8217;s the opportunity to play with the word &#8216;mediate&#8217; within it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll chip in a vote for MediaTexts over MediaCommons as well. If nothing else, there&#8217;s the opportunity to play with the word &#8216;mediate&#8217; within it.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt K.</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/mediacommons/#comment-1659</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2004 19:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I like Jake&#8217;s MediaTexts (especially since it&#8217;s available). There&#8217;s a potential objection along the lines of tacitly making &#8220;text&#8221; the dominant discursive mode, but, well, here everything _is_ text, if not on screen then as code.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Jake&#8217;s MediaTexts (especially since it&#8217;s available). There&#8217;s a potential objection along the lines of tacitly making &#8220;text&#8221; the dominant discursive mode, but, well, here everything _is_ text, if not on screen then as code.</p>
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		<title>By: Francois Lachance</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/mediacommons/#comment-1658</link>
		<dc:creator>Francois Lachance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2004 14:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kathleen, 
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Allow me to quote yourself back.... 
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quote--&gt;&gt;Or, most riskily, perhaps, is there a means of escaping the academic-press model of publication entirely, moving to some new system of peer-review and manuscript-editing that sheds the antiquated structures of press bureaucracy and economics in favor of an open-source, communal mode of intellectual discovery?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathleen,
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Allow me to quote yourself back&#8230;.
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quote&#8211;>>Or, most riskily, perhaps, is there a means of escaping the academic-press model of publication entirely, moving to some new system of peer-review and manuscript-editing that sheds the antiquated structures of press bureaucracy and economics in favor of an open-source, communal mode of intellectual discovery?</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/mediacommons/#comment-1657</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2004 13:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I find myself agreeing with the above concerns about MediaCommons, so how about the wildly original and utterly different MediaTexts (mediatext.com wants $800 for a vastly inferior domain name)? It seems pretty self-explanatory, simple, and accurate.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find myself agreeing with the above concerns about MediaCommons, so how about the wildly original and utterly different MediaTexts (mediatext.com wants $800 for a vastly inferior domain name)? It seems pretty self-explanatory, simple, and accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: KF</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/mediacommons/#comment-1656</link>
		<dc:creator>KF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2004 17:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hmmm.&#160; I&#8217;m thinking you&#8217;re right, weez, that it sounds more media than about media, if you follow.&#160; (And I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re still around!)  And Matt, I agree that it may be too generic.&#160; Do put that thinking cap on.&#160; But here&#8217;s the thing:&#160; I&#8217;m mostly thinking, at this point, of domain-name-type names, most of which would be followed by &#8220;Publishing&#8221; or some manner of indicator of the specific activity.&#160; As a side note of sorts:&#160; It&#8217;s interesting how difficult it is to get outside the book model in thinking about such names; at first, everything I thought of had &#8220;Book&#8221; or &#8220;Press&#8221; somehow involved.&#160; So I&#8217;m trying to avoid that kind of rear-view mirror construction, but still want to be specific enough.&#160; A tall order&#8230;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm.&nbsp; I&#8217;m thinking you&#8217;re right, weez, that it sounds more media than about media, if you follow.&nbsp; (And I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re still around!)  And Matt, I agree that it may be too generic.&nbsp; Do put that thinking cap on.&nbsp; But here&#8217;s the thing:&nbsp; I&#8217;m mostly thinking, at this point, of domain-name-type names, most of which would be followed by &#8220;Publishing&#8221; or some manner of indicator of the specific activity.&nbsp; As a side note of sorts:&nbsp; It&#8217;s interesting how difficult it is to get outside the book model in thinking about such names; at first, everything I thought of had &#8220;Book&#8221; or &#8220;Press&#8221; somehow involved.&nbsp; So I&#8217;m trying to avoid that kind of rear-view mirror construction, but still want to be specific enough.&nbsp; A tall order&#8230;</p>
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