Comments on: Lines, Fine and Not-So-Fine http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/lines-fine-and-not-so-fine/ falling indelibly into the past Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:03:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: incline http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/lines-fine-and-not-so-fine/#comment-1166 incline Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:04:57 +0000 http://www.new.plannedobsolescence.net/?p=535#comment-1166 <p>I’m on the other side of this.  I’m in grad school now, but I’ll be going back for a pragmatics conference in honor of Atlas, since I DO pragmatics and all.  And I realized that half of the people I’m going to be visiting, going to get a drink with, etc, when I come back are former profs.  And that I still talk on the phone with some of them regularly.  Which makes me feel like a huge tool.  But one of my old profs is still the best clothes shopping partner i’ve ever had, and those were total hoochie clothes we’d buy.  <br /> But also--I’ll still be throwing my panties on stage at We Are Scientists concerts when I’m 80 if I can wiggle out of them. </p> I’m on the other side of this.  I’m in grad school now, but I’ll be going back for a pragmatics conference in honor of Atlas, since I DO pragmatics and all.  And I realized that half of the people I’m going to be visiting, going to get a drink with, etc, when I come back are former profs.  And that I still talk on the phone with some of them regularly.  Which makes me feel like a huge tool.  But one of my old profs is still the best clothes shopping partner i’ve ever had, and those were total hoochie clothes we’d buy. 

But also–I’ll still be throwing my panties on stage at We Are Scientists concerts when I’m 80 if I can wiggle out of them.

]]> By: KF http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/lines-fine-and-not-so-fine/#comment-1165 KF Tue, 29 Mar 2005 05:21:19 +0000 http://www.new.plannedobsolescence.net/?p=535#comment-1165 <p>P.S.:  Profgrrrrl, see comment above about me being a big weenie.  Playin’ it safe, that’s me. </p> <p> Not to mention that in the first year after grad school, I gained something like twenty pounds, and only took it off the summer before I got tenure, and so I spent my assistant professordom feeling pretty much the opposite of hoochie. </p> P.S.:  Profgrrrrl, see comment above about me being a big weenie.  Playin’ it safe, that’s me.

Not to mention that in the first year after grad school, I gained something like twenty pounds, and only took it off the summer before I got tenure, and so I spent my assistant professordom feeling pretty much the opposite of hoochie.

]]> By: KF http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/lines-fine-and-not-so-fine/#comment-1164 KF Tue, 29 Mar 2005 05:17:51 +0000 http://www.new.plannedobsolescence.net/?p=535#comment-1164 <p>Well.  It’s not so much “can’t.” But there are… obstacles.  Like all my friends are pretty much upstanding citizens, without… stashes.  You know?  Or at least they’re being pretty non-disclosing about any possession-related issues.  And me, being the big weenie that I am, I couldn’t even begin to seek out anything illicit on my own. </p> <p> I once had a long debate with a colleague about whether it was unethical to score off your students.  Which gives a whole other dimension to this issue of skeeze… </p> Well.  It’s not so much “can’t.” But there are… obstacles.  Like all my friends are pretty much upstanding citizens, without… stashes.  You know?  Or at least they’re being pretty non-disclosing about any possession-related issues.  And me, being the big weenie that I am, I couldn’t even begin to seek out anything illicit on my own.

I once had a long debate with a colleague about whether it was unethical to score off your students.  Which gives a whole other dimension to this issue of skeeze…

]]> By: Eric http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/lines-fine-and-not-so-fine/#comment-1163 Eric Tue, 29 Mar 2005 05:11:25 +0000 http://www.new.plannedobsolescence.net/?p=535#comment-1163 <p>Oh, and by the way, if you want to see a truly skeezy professor, follow <a href="http://www.zagband.com/" rel="nofollow">this link and check out (who else?) the drummer. </p> <p> The band, incidentally, is godawful. </p> Oh, and by the way, if you want to see a truly skeezy professor, follow this link and check out (who else?) the drummer.

The band, incidentally, is godawful.

]]> By: Eric http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/lines-fine-and-not-so-fine/#comment-1162 Eric Tue, 29 Mar 2005 05:07:14 +0000 http://www.new.plannedobsolescence.net/?p=535#comment-1162 <p>Holy shit, you can’t get stoned after a certain age? </p> Holy shit, you can’t get stoned after a certain age?

]]> By: profgrrrrl http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/lines-fine-and-not-so-fine/#comment-1161 profgrrrrl Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:18:04 +0000 http://www.new.plannedobsolescence.net/?p=535#comment-1161 <p><i>Where is the line between being that cool professor who shows up to student events and that skeezy professor who used to be cool but still shows up to stuff?  Is it 40?  Tenure?  Marriage?</i> </p> <p> In my experience, the skeezy professor tries to be a ringleader of some of this stuff, joins when not necessarily invited, stays til the bitter end, encourages another round, etc.  But yeah, I do worry about this stuff too ... not that I think I’m there yet. Having been married sort of helps ensure I’m not there, I think. Even though I’m single, no one dares approach me in that way (on the student side, anyway), which I like. </p> <p> You made me smile re: hoochie dressing. Was I supposed to stop doing that until tenure? Uh oh ... </p> Where is the line between being that cool professor who shows up to student events and that skeezy professor who used to be cool but still shows up to stuff?  Is it 40?  Tenure?  Marriage?

In my experience, the skeezy professor tries to be a ringleader of some of this stuff, joins when not necessarily invited, stays til the bitter end, encourages another round, etc.  But yeah, I do worry about this stuff too … not that I think I’m there yet. Having been married sort of helps ensure I’m not there, I think. Even though I’m single, no one dares approach me in that way (on the student side, anyway), which I like.

You made me smile re: hoochie dressing. Was I supposed to stop doing that until tenure? Uh oh …

]]> By: marcus http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/lines-fine-and-not-so-fine/#comment-1160 marcus Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:23:16 +0000 http://www.new.plannedobsolescence.net/?p=535#comment-1160 <p>I have the extra rooms type of dream too*, although my new spaces are always accessed by strange secret passages.  Or behind locked doors that I suddenly realize I know how to slip under.  So even if we interpret new rooms as inner depths, does this mean I have to go through screwy nevroses to get there ? </p> <p> -- <br /> *rest assured that I don’t leave pregnancy tests around these spaces for when you come across them--just so you don’t confuse me with the bad roommate… </p> I have the extra rooms type of dream too*, although my new spaces are always accessed by strange secret passages.  Or behind locked doors that I suddenly realize I know how to slip under.  So even if we interpret new rooms as inner depths, does this mean I have to go through screwy nevroses to get there ?

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*rest assured that I don’t leave pregnancy tests around these spaces for when you come across them–just so you don’t confuse me with the bad roommate…

]]> By: KF http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/lines-fine-and-not-so-fine/#comment-1159 KF Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:19:58 +0000 http://www.new.plannedobsolescence.net/?p=535#comment-1159 <p>There’s that one, and then there’s the recurring dream motif in which I get into an elevator, in the context of whatever’s going on at the moment, and the elevator moves in some direction other than the directly vertical.  Sometimes it moves in a lateral spiral around the outside of the building; sometimes it moves vertically until it reaches the ground floor, and then shifts to a horizontal streetcar-like conveyance.  Inevitably, when the motion heads in an unexpected direction, I think “hey, this is just like that dream I always have—I didn’t know that there were actually elevators that did this in real life!"* There’s something so overpowering about both these dreams that they fool me into taking them for reality every single time, even as they refer to their previous iterations. </p> <p> It’s kind of you, though, to read this as suggesting inner depths rather than inner neuroses. </p> <p> --- </p> <p> *As long as I’m on the footnote kick:  Imagine the complete freakout I experienced upon discovering the <a href="http://www.luxor.com/superset.php3/accommodations/pyramid.php3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Inclinators</a> at the Luxor in Vegas.  I need to stay there sometime just to ride up and down.  Or at a 39-degree angle, as the case may be. </p> There’s that one, and then there’s the recurring dream motif in which I get into an elevator, in the context of whatever’s going on at the moment, and the elevator moves in some direction other than the directly vertical.  Sometimes it moves in a lateral spiral around the outside of the building; sometimes it moves vertically until it reaches the ground floor, and then shifts to a horizontal streetcar-like conveyance.  Inevitably, when the motion heads in an unexpected direction, I think “hey, this is just like that dream I always have—I didn’t know that there were actually elevators that did this in real life!”* There’s something so overpowering about both these dreams that they fool me into taking them for reality every single time, even as they refer to their previous iterations.

It’s kind of you, though, to read this as suggesting inner depths rather than inner neuroses.

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*As long as I’m on the footnote kick:  Imagine the complete freakout I experienced upon discovering the Inclinators at the Luxor in Vegas.  I need to stay there sometime just to ride up and down.  Or at a 39-degree angle, as the case may be.

]]> By: meg http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/lines-fine-and-not-so-fine/#comment-1158 meg Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:01:39 +0000 http://www.new.plannedobsolescence.net/?p=535#comment-1158 <p>I love the extra-rooms dream.  Your recurring dream is so much better than mine… I’ve had the same one since I was about four: being dressed like Bugs Bunny while protecting my mother from Yosemite Sam stealing the shoes off her feet.  Yours suggests inner depths; mine just suggests inner buffoonery. </p> I love the extra-rooms dream.  Your recurring dream is so much better than mine… I’ve had the same one since I was about four: being dressed like Bugs Bunny while protecting my mother from Yosemite Sam stealing the shoes off her feet.  Yours suggests inner depths; mine just suggests inner buffoonery.

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