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		<title>By: Bryan Alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great post.&#160; Love the Sunset Blvd closer.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.&nbsp; Love the Sunset Blvd closer.</p>
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		<title>By: Francois Lachance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francois Lachance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kathleen,
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You prompted me to read the interview and to offer an alternative reception ... it seems the whole question and answer exchange was conducted under the sign of irony. 
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Isn&#8217;t there a smirking archness in the description of Salman Rushdie? Especially since that remark follows on the heels of acknowledging that he did write that he [Vidal] was once a &#8220;famous novelist&#8221; and state that &#8220;there&#8217;s no such thing as a famous novelist&#8221;. A discursive move of assertion and negation so very much the hallmark of Rushdie&#8217;s extrordinary fiction. Irony piled on irony :) Theatre, lies, revelations and more theatre. Poses, actions and memory. 
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I wonder if reading the words aloud circumvents the workings of what Vidal references as a &#8220;culture deaf to irony&#8221;. 
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The one passage in the interview that is novel for me and the one I find most challenging is the alignment of classical education, multiculturalism and a nuanced world view (the latter being a precondition for the appreciation of irony). Note that the question references Vidal as a &#8220;writer&#8221; not as a &#8220;famous novelist&#8221;. 
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BF: Is there one book that you believe best evokes who you are as a writer?
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GV: The one that I wish everybody would read is Creation. I spent years on that book, and anyone who reads it from beginning to end will learn about the Buddha, about Confucius, about Zoroaster, about Mahavira and the Jains. It&#8217;s very popular in countries which offer, more or less, classical educations. In the US, practically nobody knows about it because it&#8217;s not about family life, it&#8217;s not about marriage and divorce. Those seem to be the only subjects that American writers touch. 
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Ouch! Is that a call to read differently what already exists and not just an observation on the topics chosen by American writers? Yup. Vidal leaves open the door for correction of his &#8220;seem to be&#8221; observation. And that passage about readers, likewise: &#8220;I don&#8217;t think the novel is dead. I think the readers are dead.&#8221;
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Readers are dead. But the reader lives. 
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The greatly celebrated American individualism is alive and well in the repulbic of letters. The reader, the individual in open generous response in front of the writer&#8217;s offerings, be they novel, story, essay or interview, is the incarnated in the memory of the great figure that concludes the interview: Montaigne. 
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&#8220;Names refuse to come when bidden.&#8221; 
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Not naming is the essence of irony. 
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Non?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathleen,
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You prompted me to read the interview and to offer an alternative reception &#8230; it seems the whole question and answer exchange was conducted under the sign of irony.
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Isn&#8217;t there a smirking archness in the description of Salman Rushdie? Especially since that remark follows on the heels of acknowledging that he did write that he [Vidal] was once a &#8220;famous novelist&#8221; and state that &#8220;there&#8217;s no such thing as a famous novelist&#8221;. A discursive move of assertion and negation so very much the hallmark of Rushdie&#8217;s extrordinary fiction. Irony piled on irony :) Theatre, lies, revelations and more theatre. Poses, actions and memory.
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I wonder if reading the words aloud circumvents the workings of what Vidal references as a &#8220;culture deaf to irony&#8221;.
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The one passage in the interview that is novel for me and the one I find most challenging is the alignment of classical education, multiculturalism and a nuanced world view (the latter being a precondition for the appreciation of irony). Note that the question references Vidal as a &#8220;writer&#8221; not as a &#8220;famous novelist&#8221;.
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BF: Is there one book that you believe best evokes who you are as a writer?
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GV: The one that I wish everybody would read is Creation. I spent years on that book, and anyone who reads it from beginning to end will learn about the Buddha, about Confucius, about Zoroaster, about Mahavira and the Jains. It&#8217;s very popular in countries which offer, more or less, classical educations. In the US, practically nobody knows about it because it&#8217;s not about family life, it&#8217;s not about marriage and divorce. Those seem to be the only subjects that American writers touch.
</p>
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Ouch! Is that a call to read differently what already exists and not just an observation on the topics chosen by American writers? Yup. Vidal leaves open the door for correction of his &#8220;seem to be&#8221; observation. And that passage about readers, likewise: &#8220;I don&#8217;t think the novel is dead. I think the readers are dead.&#8221;
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Readers are dead. But the reader lives.
</p>
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The greatly celebrated American individualism is alive and well in the repulbic of letters. The reader, the individual in open generous response in front of the writer&#8217;s offerings, be they novel, story, essay or interview, is the incarnated in the memory of the great figure that concludes the interview: Montaigne.
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&#8220;Names refuse to come when bidden.&#8221;
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Not naming is the essence of irony.
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Non?</p>
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		<title>By: meg</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/in-memoriam-literati/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And not just Pynchon&#8212;a couple of weeks ago, the Simpsons had a whole panel of supah-stah authors (but not Dallas Fort Worth&#8212;he probably demurred).
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Vidal&#8212;like my mother&#8212;confuses nostalgia with memory.&#160; &#8220;-algia&#8221; means pain, and pain inevitably distorts.&#160; I think that&#8217;s in Plato somewhere.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And not just Pynchon&#8212;a couple of weeks ago, the Simpsons had a whole panel of supah-stah authors (but not Dallas Fort Worth&#8212;he probably demurred).
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Vidal&#8212;like my mother&#8212;confuses nostalgia with memory.&nbsp; &#8220;-algia&#8221; means pain, and pain inevitably distorts.&nbsp; I think that&#8217;s in Plato somewhere.</p>
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