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		<title>By: Matt K.</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/from-day-one/#comment-1755</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ecuse me Mr. Rhody, but I&#8217;ve taught The Firm! Used it in an Intro to Lit class as the final reading to discuss timeless aesthetic virtues . . . no, just kidding--we used it as the launching pad to a unit on the canon, popular fiction/culture and What is Literature? It worked out great.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ecuse me Mr. Rhody, but I&#8217;ve taught The Firm! Used it in an Intro to Lit class as the final reading to discuss timeless aesthetic virtues . . . no, just kidding&#8211;we used it as the launching pad to a unit on the canon, popular fiction/culture and What is Literature? It worked out great.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/from-day-one/#comment-1754</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Your CSS change fixed it for me Kathleen.
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And I agree w/ you on Crypt.&#160; I certainly think that Stevenson has some stylistic issues (like needing an editor, for one), but I *cough* might say the same of at least one other on the list.&#160; 
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But to compare it to teaching Patriot Games?&#160; A touch harsh, I&#8217;d say.
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And its flaws, I think, make for an interesting conversation about the notion of a &#8220;Big Novel&#8221; and the burdens that accompany such a title.
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Of course, there&#8217;s always The Firm.&#160; (joking&#8230; always joking)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your CSS change fixed it for me Kathleen.
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And I agree w/ you on Crypt.&nbsp; I certainly think that Stevenson has some stylistic issues (like needing an editor, for one), but I *cough* might say the same of at least one other on the list.&nbsp;
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But to compare it to teaching Patriot Games?&nbsp; A touch harsh, I&#8217;d say.
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And its flaws, I think, make for an interesting conversation about the notion of a &#8220;Big Novel&#8221; and the burdens that accompany such a title.
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Of course, there&#8217;s always The Firm.&nbsp; (joking&#8230; always joking)</p>
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		<title>By: KF</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/from-day-one/#comment-1753</link>
		<dc:creator>KF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think I&#8217;ve gotten it taken care of now&#8212;there&#8217;s a style tag at the top of the sidebar template that puts in a top-margin of -10px, and I think changing that to 0px fixes the problem.&#160; I hope so, at least.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;ve gotten it taken care of now&#8212;there&#8217;s a style tag at the top of the sidebar template that puts in a top-margin of -10px, and I think changing that to 0px fixes the problem.&nbsp; I hope so, at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt K.</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/from-day-one/#comment-1752</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I had the problem with the top &#8220;instructor&#8221; line too. Solved it by just throwing a line break into the top line of the instructor entry. Crude but it works.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the problem with the top &#8220;instructor&#8221; line too. Solved it by just throwing a line break into the top line of the instructor entry. Crude but it works.</p>
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		<title>By: KF</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/from-day-one/#comment-1751</link>
		<dc:creator>KF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, now, Chun:&#160; mindless?&#160; &lt;i&gt;Cryptonomicon&lt;/i&gt; is admittedly no &lt;i&gt;Gravity&#8217;s Rainbow&lt;/i&gt;, at least in terms of style, or of a certain kind of complexity, but I think it&#8217;s of more than sociological interest.&#160; Just as Pynchon suggests a deep historical relation between the late- and immediate-post-war period and the Nixon era, so the familial relationships in Stephenson suggest a similar historical relation between the World War II era and the late 1990s.&#160; And it&#8217;s not a pretty one&#8212;it&#8217;s about neo-colonialism and apocalyptic conflict and the ways that technological innovation always seems to degenerate into a new gold rush.
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It may not be a work of &#8220;genius&#8221; by high-lit standards (standards I&#8217;d like to disrupt, anyhow), but I think it&#8217;s way more interesting than you give it credit for.
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And, as you suggest, after making our way through the first three books, it&#8217;s a slightly more relaxed end-of-semester read.&#160; &lt;i&gt;JR&lt;/i&gt; would just be cruel and unusual.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, now, Chun:&nbsp; mindless?&nbsp; <i>Cryptonomicon</i> is admittedly no <i>Gravity&#8217;s Rainbow</i>, at least in terms of style, or of a certain kind of complexity, but I think it&#8217;s of more than sociological interest.&nbsp; Just as Pynchon suggests a deep historical relation between the late- and immediate-post-war period and the Nixon era, so the familial relationships in Stephenson suggest a similar historical relation between the World War II era and the late 1990s.&nbsp; And it&#8217;s not a pretty one&#8212;it&#8217;s about neo-colonialism and apocalyptic conflict and the ways that technological innovation always seems to degenerate into a new gold rush.
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It may not be a work of &#8220;genius&#8221; by high-lit standards (standards I&#8217;d like to disrupt, anyhow), but I think it&#8217;s way more interesting than you give it credit for.
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And, as you suggest, after making our way through the first three books, it&#8217;s a slightly more relaxed end-of-semester read.&nbsp; <i>JR</i> would just be cruel and unusual.</p>
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		<title>By: chun the unavoidable</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/from-day-one/#comment-1750</link>
		<dc:creator>chun the unavoidable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow. No trouble picking out the &#8220;which one doesn&#8217;t belong&#8221; on your big novel syllabus.
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&lt;p&gt;To take one example off the top of my head, Gene Wolfe&#8217;s &lt;em&gt;Book of the New Sun&lt;/em&gt; (considered, rightly, as one novel, it&#8217;s about the same length as the rest and certainly encyclopedic) is, I&#8217;d conservatively estimate, infinitely more intellectually rewarding and better-written than the anomaly.
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&lt;p&gt;If the &#8220;current U.S. culture&#8221; angle doesn&#8217;t work for you w/r/t the Wolfe book (which I think it does), there&#8217;s always &lt;em&gt;JR&lt;/em&gt;. Stephenson is of a more obvious sociological interest, but you could get the same effect from reading Slashdot for a few weeks.
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&lt;p&gt;Imagine taking a course on espionage fiction in which you read &lt;em&gt;A Coffin for Dimitrios&lt;/em&gt;; &lt;em&gt;Our Man in Havana&lt;/em&gt;; &lt;em&gt;Tinker, Tailor, Solider, Spy&lt;/em&gt;; and then &lt;em&gt;Patriot Games&lt;/em&gt;. But that&#8217;s unfair to Clancy. And the students will certainly appreciate something mindless after the first three.
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&lt;p&gt;I&#8217;m envious of the course, of course.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. No trouble picking out the &#8220;which one doesn&#8217;t belong&#8221; on your big novel syllabus.
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<p>To take one example off the top of my head, Gene Wolfe&#8217;s <em>Book of the New Sun</em> (considered, rightly, as one novel, it&#8217;s about the same length as the rest and certainly encyclopedic) is, I&#8217;d conservatively estimate, infinitely more intellectually rewarding and better-written than the anomaly.
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<p>If the &#8220;current U.S. culture&#8221; angle doesn&#8217;t work for you w/r/t the Wolfe book (which I think it does), there&#8217;s always <em>JR</em>. Stephenson is of a more obvious sociological interest, but you could get the same effect from reading Slashdot for a few weeks.
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<p>Imagine taking a course on espionage fiction in which you read <em>A Coffin for Dimitrios</em>; <em>Our Man in Havana</em>; <em>Tinker, Tailor, Solider, Spy</em>; and then <em>Patriot Games</em>. But that&#8217;s unfair to Clancy. And the students will certainly appreciate something mindless after the first three.
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<p>I&#8217;m envious of the course, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: KF</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/from-day-one/#comment-1749</link>
		<dc:creator>KF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Huh.&#160; I&#8217;m on a WinXP/IE machine now, and I see what you&#8217;re talking about.&#160; I&#8217;ll have to email Liz&#8212;it&#8217;s happening on her course site, too.&#160; Another Microsoft miracle, I guess&#8230;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh.&nbsp; I&#8217;m on a WinXP/IE machine now, and I see what you&#8217;re talking about.&nbsp; I&#8217;ll have to email Liz&#8212;it&#8217;s happening on her course site, too.&nbsp; Another Microsoft miracle, I guess&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ah, sorry.&#160; Should&#8217;ve been more specific.
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The banner works fine.
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Below that, we have two columns.&#160; In the left column, the words &#8220;Professor Kathleen Fitzpatrick&#8221; are sliding underneath the banner (I think these are the words, anyway, since I can only see the bottom 1/3 of them).
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WinXP Pro.&#160; IE 6.0.
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I can check from home w/ similar OS/Browser.&#160; My work computer can be weird sometimes.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, sorry.&nbsp; Should&#8217;ve been more specific.
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The banner works fine.
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Below that, we have two columns.&nbsp; In the left column, the words &#8220;Professor Kathleen Fitzpatrick&#8221; are sliding underneath the banner (I think these are the words, anyway, since I can only see the bottom 1/3 of them).
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WinXP Pro.&nbsp; IE 6.0.
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I can check from home w/ similar OS/Browser.&nbsp; My work computer can be weird sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: KF</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/from-day-one/#comment-1747</link>
		<dc:creator>KF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jason&#8212;describe this to me a little further?&#160; For instance, on the &lt;a href="http://sax.pomona.edu/weblogs/MS49" rel="nofollow"&gt;Intro to Media Studies&lt;/a&gt; page, do you not get the top &#8220;Introduction to Media Studies&#8221; banner?&#160; That sounds like a browser problem, not a monitor problem.&#160; What OS/browser are you using?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason&#8212;describe this to me a little further?&nbsp; For instance, on the <a href="http://sax.pomona.edu/weblogs/MS49" rel="nofollow">Intro to Media Studies</a> page, do you not get the top &#8220;Introduction to Media Studies&#8221; banner?&nbsp; That sounds like a browser problem, not a monitor problem.&nbsp; What OS/browser are you using?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow. Jealous.&#160; Two great looking classes.
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Side note: on my monitor at work, the &#8220;info&#8221; part of your course blogs is cut off at the top, so that I can only see a small portion of the top line (above: &#8220;Office").
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Jealous.&nbsp; Two great looking classes.
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Side note: on my monitor at work, the &#8220;info&#8221; part of your course blogs is cut off at the top, so that I can only see a small portion of the top line (above: &#8220;Office&#8221;).</p>
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