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	<title>Comments on: AOIR 5.2:&#160; Not Enough Less Grouchy to Really Be Posting</title>
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		<title>By: KF</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2004 16:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi, Matt.&#160; Generally speaking, I&#8217;d say yes&#8212;except that what I&#8217;m pretty sure happened in this case was that both of the presenters before me HAD in fact written full papers&#8212;and then attempted to present the entire thing, rather than presenting either a summary or a section thereof.
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Really, I think the key element is the session chair&#8212;who should preferably not be a speaker on the panel, who should be properly briefed, as you say, and who should warn the speakers that s/he will give them time limit warnings and then will stop them abruptly at some pre-determined point over time.&#160; Without someone directing traffic in that way, I just don&#8217;t think it can work, full papers or no&#8230;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Matt.&nbsp; Generally speaking, I&#8217;d say yes&#8212;except that what I&#8217;m pretty sure happened in this case was that both of the presenters before me HAD in fact written full papers&#8212;and then attempted to present the entire thing, rather than presenting either a summary or a section thereof.
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Really, I think the key element is the session chair&#8212;who should preferably not be a speaker on the panel, who should be properly briefed, as you say, and who should warn the speakers that s/he will give them time limit warnings and then will stop them abruptly at some pre-determined point over time.&nbsp; Without someone directing traffic in that way, I just don&#8217;t think it can work, full papers or no&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2004 03:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ouch, don&#8217;t you just *hate* it when that happens. Note to self: ensure conference session chairs are appointed, briefed and cheered! for future AoIR coferences.
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I too was struck by the lack of presentation ability in the conference - and I might well include myself in there. I think I got the timing right, at least, but was not happy with the way I had to speed through a couple of bits which I&#8217;d misestimated.
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Maybe we should be requesting fully written papers for the conference (or, at least, indicating in the program those papers that ARE fully written?)
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Matt
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch, don&#8217;t you just *hate* it when that happens. Note to self: ensure conference session chairs are appointed, briefed and cheered! for future AoIR coferences.
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I too was struck by the lack of presentation ability in the conference - and I might well include myself in there. I think I got the timing right, at least, but was not happy with the way I had to speed through a couple of bits which I&#8217;d misestimated.
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Maybe we should be requesting fully written papers for the conference (or, at least, indicating in the program those papers that ARE fully written?)
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Matt</p>
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