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		<title>By: MD</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/and-what-i-cant-figure-out/#comment-816</link>
		<dc:creator>MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 11:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have no insights, just the same experience.&#160; I actually lose sleep thinking about not only the horror of this disaster, (I&#8217;m thinking mostly about the government&#8217;s abject failure to do anything; hurricanes are going to happen) but the horrible lessons that we have learned for future disasters: don&#8217;t do what you&#8217;re told, don&#8217;t trust the government agencies, don&#8217;t count on anybody showing up to help you in any way.&#160; But when I even mention it in the No-Worries-State, most people say something like, &#8220;Oh yeah, how is that going?&#160; I heard some people had to evacuate.&#8221;  Further attempts to convey to such people that this is a &lt;i&gt;real disaster&lt;/i&gt; happening &lt;i&gt;right now&lt;/i&gt; in &lt;i&gt;real life&lt;/i&gt; just cause them to get that concerned look that means they&#8217;re wondering whether I&#8217;m entirely stable.&#160; (yeah, I got used to that look after the 2000 presidential election..)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no insights, just the same experience.&nbsp; I actually lose sleep thinking about not only the horror of this disaster, (I&#8217;m thinking mostly about the government&#8217;s abject failure to do anything; hurricanes are going to happen) but the horrible lessons that we have learned for future disasters: don&#8217;t do what you&#8217;re told, don&#8217;t trust the government agencies, don&#8217;t count on anybody showing up to help you in any way.&nbsp; But when I even mention it in the No-Worries-State, most people say something like, &#8220;Oh yeah, how is that going?&nbsp; I heard some people had to evacuate.&#8221;  Further attempts to convey to such people that this is a <i>real disaster</i> happening <i>right now</i> in <i>real life</i> just cause them to get that concerned look that means they&#8217;re wondering whether I&#8217;m entirely stable.&nbsp; (yeah, I got used to that look after the 2000 presidential election..)</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/and-what-i-cant-figure-out/#comment-815</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 22:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#8217;ve been thinking about you and my other New orleans friends often this week, KF, and many of your comments are just starting to settle in.&#160; But one of the things that is troubling me is the degree to which this has been portrayed as a &#8220;natural disaster,&#8221; when it is actually more than that.
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Your &#8220;What Went Wrong&#8221; post is a starting point in outlining the ways in which this tragedy is at least partially human-made, at least to the extent that government policies devalued the lives of hundereds of thousands of people by not maintaining the levees.&#160; I&#8217;m also disturbed by the degree to which people seem to be continuing their lives without any kind of mourning or grief.&#160; To take one trivial comparison, the NFL, college football, and major league baseball completely shut down for a week or two (I can&#8217;t remember exactly) after 9/11.&#160; THe opposite seems to be happening here, as if there is a will-not-to-grieve.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about you and my other New orleans friends often this week, KF, and many of your comments are just starting to settle in.&nbsp; But one of the things that is troubling me is the degree to which this has been portrayed as a &#8220;natural disaster,&#8221; when it is actually more than that.
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Your &#8220;What Went Wrong&#8221; post is a starting point in outlining the ways in which this tragedy is at least partially human-made, at least to the extent that government policies devalued the lives of hundereds of thousands of people by not maintaining the levees.&nbsp; I&#8217;m also disturbed by the degree to which people seem to be continuing their lives without any kind of mourning or grief.&nbsp; To take one trivial comparison, the NFL, college football, and major league baseball completely shut down for a week or two (I can&#8217;t remember exactly) after 9/11.&nbsp; THe opposite seems to be happening here, as if there is a will-not-to-grieve.</p>
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		<title>By: kari</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/and-what-i-cant-figure-out/#comment-814</link>
		<dc:creator>kari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 15:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;KF, just saw footage of General Honore roll into the city with soldiers, food, and relief supplies.&#160; In contrast to the other federal buffoons out there, this guy appears to know how to move people and supplies far more effectively than anyone else thus far.&#160; Maybe this is a turning point.
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I spent several summers in New Orleans when I was an undergraduate.&#160; I remember reading Hemingway&#8217;s _A Moveable Feast_ and drinking peach tea on Julia St; being awed by the mausoleums; endlessly fascinated with the street bands, magicians, and fortune tellers; and starstruck by Mickey Rourke, who was filming  Johnny Handsome in the French Quarter while I was there ("you&#8217;re shaking like a leaf,&#8221; he said when I finally mustered the courage to ask for an autograph).&#160; I can understand why you love the city so; and I&#8217;m so glad to hear that your family is okay.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KF, just saw footage of General Honore roll into the city with soldiers, food, and relief supplies.&nbsp; In contrast to the other federal buffoons out there, this guy appears to know how to move people and supplies far more effectively than anyone else thus far.&nbsp; Maybe this is a turning point.
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I spent several summers in New Orleans when I was an undergraduate.&nbsp; I remember reading Hemingway&#8217;s _A Moveable Feast_ and drinking peach tea on Julia St; being awed by the mausoleums; endlessly fascinated with the street bands, magicians, and fortune tellers; and starstruck by Mickey Rourke, who was filming  Johnny Handsome in the French Quarter while I was there (&#8221;you&#8217;re shaking like a leaf,&#8221; he said when I finally mustered the courage to ask for an autograph).&nbsp; I can understand why you love the city so; and I&#8217;m so glad to hear that your family is okay.</p>
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		<title>By: CM</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/and-what-i-cant-figure-out/#comment-813</link>
		<dc:creator>CM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 20:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think the reason it&#8217;s not getting more international coverage is that natural disasters are not atypical. There are floods in Bangladesh and Western India, among other places. The tsunami on the other hand was atypical because of its geographic scope and the number of people killed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the reason it&#8217;s not getting more international coverage is that natural disasters are not atypical. There are floods in Bangladesh and Western India, among other places. The tsunami on the other hand was atypical because of its geographic scope and the number of people killed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 20:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The news coverage has been awful.&#160;  As a native of the area, you&#8217;re privvy to first hand accounts and are able to contextualize the situation as it really is.
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Looking on tv, houses are flooded, people are on the streets.&#160; A few people loot.&#160; It looks like a bad riot or something&#8212;nothing to worry about.&#160; Let&#8217;s also remember that American&#8217;s haven&#8217;t fully cast off their adherance to race and class bias&#8212;and the bulk of people left in the city (and in the pictuers) are the poorest of the black population, while the white people on tv all have boats and are loving god and helping one another.
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The bulk of the country has no idea about the true extent of damage, or how mob violence and looting has turned deadly and insane.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The news coverage has been awful.&nbsp;  As a native of the area, you&#8217;re privvy to first hand accounts and are able to contextualize the situation as it really is.
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Looking on tv, houses are flooded, people are on the streets.&nbsp; A few people loot.&nbsp; It looks like a bad riot or something&#8212;nothing to worry about.&nbsp; Let&#8217;s also remember that American&#8217;s haven&#8217;t fully cast off their adherance to race and class bias&#8212;and the bulk of people left in the city (and in the pictuers) are the poorest of the black population, while the white people on tv all have boats and are loving god and helping one another.
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The bulk of the country has no idea about the true extent of damage, or how mob violence and looting has turned deadly and insane.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/and-what-i-cant-figure-out/#comment-811</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 18:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#8217;m sorry I got your name wrong, Kathleen. I hate that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry I got your name wrong, Kathleen. I hate that.</p>
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		<title>By: incline</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/and-what-i-cant-figure-out/#comment-810</link>
		<dc:creator>incline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 16:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;speaking of schadenfreude, apparently some people are using news links to spread computer viruses.&#160; here&#8217;s a link to the INFO, not the virus:
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&lt;a href="http://sophos.com/virusinfo/articles/katrina.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://sophos.com/virusinfo/articles/katrina.html&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>speaking of schadenfreude, apparently some people are using news links to spread computer viruses.&nbsp; here&#8217;s a link to the INFO, not the virus:
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<a href="http://sophos.com/virusinfo/articles/katrina.html" rel="nofollow">http://sophos.com/virusinfo/articles/katrina.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.plannedobsolescence.net/and-what-i-cant-figure-out/#comment-809</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 14:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, of all the posts to get linked to.
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With the caveat that you&#8217;ve already said that you&#8217;re not pointing fingers, I&#8217;m still sorry if I seemed insensitive (I did my best to ward that off, but it was probably not possible)--my point was certainly not that this isn&#8217;t a tragedy, because it is, and I&#8217;m following developing events with increasing sadness and concern. But absurdity in media remains, and that was really my main subject there. I sort of regret comparing the casualty numbers, since it&#8217;s ended up as the focus of a lot of criticism of me as a big jerk/cold-hearted robot/insensitive prick, but I wrote what I wrote and I&#8217;m not going to pretend I didn&#8217;t.
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At any rate, things there seem to be getting worse and worse and if I knew yesterday what I know today I would have been a lot more hesitant to make light of it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, of all the posts to get linked to.
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With the caveat that you&#8217;ve already said that you&#8217;re not pointing fingers, I&#8217;m still sorry if I seemed insensitive (I did my best to ward that off, but it was probably not possible)&#8211;my point was certainly not that this isn&#8217;t a tragedy, because it is, and I&#8217;m following developing events with increasing sadness and concern. But absurdity in media remains, and that was really my main subject there. I sort of regret comparing the casualty numbers, since it&#8217;s ended up as the focus of a lot of criticism of me as a big jerk/cold-hearted robot/insensitive prick, but I wrote what I wrote and I&#8217;m not going to pretend I didn&#8217;t.
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At any rate, things there seem to be getting worse and worse and if I knew yesterday what I know today I would have been a lot more hesitant to make light of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Francois Lachance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francois Lachance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 13:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Update: the Canadian Red Cross at the request of the American Red Cross is sending a diaster response team. As well the Canadian Red Cross has announced that it has receieved hundreds of calls and is accepting funds earmarked for relief assistance in the wake of Hurricane Katerina. As well, the Red Cross is taking the opportunity to do public education on emergency preparedness. And yes, the airwaves have devoted some time to  interviews with persons with expertise in risk management and engineering. As Jill has mentioned, this is just one story among others. The discourse here is likely to centre on the relationship between a sound civil society and resilence in the face of natural disaster,  particularly since the U.S. media feeds are highlighting the looting and the efforts to curtail it. The question on lots of people&#8217;s minds&#8212;why such looting? The fishbowl effect that the media creates is in some places refracted by a fundamental question of value: property or persons, where to focus efforts.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: the Canadian Red Cross at the request of the American Red Cross is sending a diaster response team. As well the Canadian Red Cross has announced that it has receieved hundreds of calls and is accepting funds earmarked for relief assistance in the wake of Hurricane Katerina. As well, the Red Cross is taking the opportunity to do public education on emergency preparedness. And yes, the airwaves have devoted some time to  interviews with persons with expertise in risk management and engineering. As Jill has mentioned, this is just one story among others. The discourse here is likely to centre on the relationship between a sound civil society and resilence in the face of natural disaster,  particularly since the U.S. media feeds are highlighting the looting and the efforts to curtail it. The question on lots of people&#8217;s minds&#8212;why such looting? The fishbowl effect that the media creates is in some places refracted by a fundamental question of value: property or persons, where to focus efforts.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 12:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Her name is Kathleen.
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